I felt a great disturbance in the Fediverse, as if thousands of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced as they were rugged by NVK. 🙃
@lopp What happened?
@lucas @lopp What happened is that the host of bitcoinhackers.org threw a fit and took his Mastodon instance offline entirely, suddenly and much earlier than he promised his users before, in order to get people to switch to #nostr immediately.
He intentionally crippled people's ability to use the built-in account migration, only to make a point about rug pulls being a potential problem with federated servers. However, he created that problem unnecessarily for his users by being a shitty host.
@lopp as if bitcoiners needed to be *more* isolated from other groups…
nostr is pretty interesting but I’ve grown increasingly convinced the spam situation will get really bad the moment it’s worth it to spammers, and they’ll resort to pay-to-post. Pay-to-post is actually pretty neat incentives wise, but will be completely socially unacceptable to everybody except bitcoiners.
@ademan yea I tend to agree. There’s no easy solution to the spam/harassment problems, nostr pretends it doesn’t have one by handwaving about tried-and-failed solutions. :(
@lain Proof-of-Botnet :p. This is why PoW for email never took off, the economics actually don't work, botnets have more horsepower than normal folks, by far.
@lain Nah, mining bitcoin requires specialized hardware. Mining with random computers is generic.
@ademan The problem stands either way - most people don't want to pay to post, the value for them to post something to their 20 followers is substantially less than even a trivial cost. The value for a spammer to post is usually higher :(.
@ademan in order to burn the identity you have to have (pay) someone to moderate and flag it as spam. That’s very expensive.
@lain@lain.com @ademan@thebag.social @lopp@lopp.social @matt@mastodon.bitcoin.ninja I think this is what steemit has been doing for a while?
@lopp yeah :< he could have left it on at least until March like he said he would…